@frostypants
Where did you get that from? SHIPPED to sony was units produced - the untils produced were SHIPPED to their warehouses. When retailers made the order they SOLD them to them. Companies produce what they expect to sell to retailers - thats why we see company projections of future sales etc so they know how much to produce.
Your misunderstanding comes from a different idea of what shipped and sold is. To us shipped = retailers, sold = consumers....
Hello Oner.
THe mistake your making is the fact that you think that report means they have changed to sold to consumer. 'Recorded sales' is what they changed to. Who buys off Sony - the retailers! That is where their recorded sales are. Sony used to announce units produced, but now rocorded sales. Not that hard.
OH and please find a link to where Nintendo supposedly changed the way they report in 2006. They have always reported sold to retailers.
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No but they may have sold 1 million considering they were at 44.6 end of sept and Greenburg would have been referring to end of october figures. Both figures of which would be retail sales. Some people really need to check their facts before they try and come across clever.
For the millionth time. Sony have never said they have reported sold to consumers on their financial reports. Read the report again if you don't understand. They announced they changed from shipped to units sold. Units sold to Sony is sold to retailers as the retailers buy off them. SOny used to report units produced (shipped).
Although now the sales are so clse the ps3 must have an actual bigger userbase, factoring in the effects of RROD.
Sony's numbers are not sold to consumers they are consoles sold. How many people have misinterpreted that 2006 statement by Sony!? They don't report 'sell-through' which would be numbers to consumers but 'sold' which is what they have sold to retailers (the retailers are the ones that buy off Sony!). Before 2006 Sony reported numbers produced. Nothing wrong with that, thats just how they did it. So they reported that they changed from shipped to sold. Simple.
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Death, theres no point, if you are not claiming that Sony will rule all then you will be disagreed, without even a credible counter argument. Its the way N4G is.
I'm not going to defend Vgchartz, their 360 number is 500K too high and their ps3 number 500K too low but surely someone must see that booch/rigmaster/flatulentghost etc (he has at least 6 accounts) is the same person. This guy is also someone from neogaf who was at the opposite end to 'ioi', just as much a fanboy but instead a delusion playstation one.
Also no one seems to have pointed out that this articel ihas no basis as it is using MS shipped figures from J...
Yeah the wii really is kicking ass.
Sebastian Vettel :D F1 superstar
F1>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>Indy car in terms of talent.
Finally GT5 has F1?
Doe sit actuall have all 24 cars? If it does then I didn't realise and it will be the greatest game of all time possibly. But having 1 or so cars ISN'T having F1 racing.
Wow thats quite off topic. Good vid, shit driver.
No the sales culture is dead because the most accurate figures available have gone. Not everything has an agenda against Sony and the PS3.
Sony do not report sold to comnsumer numbers. I've no idea how people can have that misconception. Every company (MS, Sony, Nintendo, Apple, PC World, Moms friendly bakery) report sold numbers, and to them it is sold when it is sold to retailers.
The gap according to the companies is 2.9 million and they are the only figures we can compare because we know they are in the same context from both companies. Not some blog site.
Morganfell- if Vgchartz rep...
@ N4great
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... - there you go, non wikipedia MS numbers for you.
And you really are dumb if you think Sony and Nintendo use sold to consumer numbers. They use sold numbers, thats why they say sold, but sold to them means sold to retailers, as its the retailers who they sell to. I don't like MS and I'm nintendo's biggest fa...
Because they weren't, they were a million short as they should be if you'd bothered to actually check it out.
Proof?
I don't think you will be forthcoming with any so I will reply with some actual proof disproving you.
The end of June 2010, MS reported that they had sold 41.7 million xbox's to retailers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Vgchartz at this time had sales to consumers at 40.7 million.
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The average joe will more likely enjoy it than the hardcore gamer I think.
But this is a review?!
No you do not need glasses to play the games.
To see the 3D now I presume you have to be there actually playing the game.
@darkride
To answer your question once again because you don't seem to listen, the 'shipped' numbers that Sony reported before the change were the numbers they had produced and shipped to their warehouses. They then changed to 'sold' which as everyone who can look at this objectively can see for them is what they sell to retail. This moved them in line with Nintendo and MS and the majority of companies out there.
I know there is little po...